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Post by CertainDeath on Apr 16, 2004 19:58:05 GMT -5
Welcome Painter!
HaveSocks, it's that very same incident with the nades and that post by Hunter that really indicated to me that something was wrong behind the scenes at GCK. He acted like a spoiled prince in that post and on a number of occasions was less than GCK-like to me in the field. I held my tounge because I was warned that Hunter was NOT someone to cross swords with and because I desperately wanted to be a member. So, viva =JHF=!!! and good riddance to the dictator.
CD
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Post by Nosocks on Apr 17, 2004 0:29:54 GMT -5
Hiya guys. I have not been on the GCK server for months after it became clear that COD was not to be played and DH/Hunter would not respond to multiple emails. Havesocks told me of some big problems there. That is very unfortunate. I really enjoyed GCK during my time there. Though I do not know what all the problems at GCK were about I hope you all are well. Looking forward to perhaps seeing some of you on COD servers!!
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Post by =JHF=© CURRAHEE™ on Apr 17, 2004 1:14:24 GMT -5
O WOW, He's back!!!! great to hear from you NoSocks!
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Post by =JHF= BONE!!!™ on Apr 17, 2004 5:47:41 GMT -5
Hiya guys. I have not been on the GCK server for months after it became clear that COD was not to be played and DH/Hunter would not respond to multiple emails. Havesocks told me of some big problems there. That is very unfortunate. I really enjoyed GCK during my time there. Though I do not know what all the problems at GCK were about I hope you all are well. Looking forward to perhaps seeing some of you on COD servers!! Good to here from you NoSocks!!!!!!!!!! We're in the process of setting up a mohaa server and a CoD server. Keep an eye out hear for info. We'd love to have you playin' with us!
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=JHF= Farefax©
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Post by =JHF= Farefax© on Apr 17, 2004 7:08:04 GMT -5
Great that you guys are here. Welcome home.
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Post by GCK Freddy on Apr 17, 2004 8:35:49 GMT -5
Hey guys, well I'm kinda dissapointed. I think a became pretty good friends with alot of you guys, CD, Bone, even personally met Curr. And in defense of Hunter, I still don't quite understand what you all think he did wrong, and why he is a "dictator" now. He didn't want to take the server and do what he wanted with it, he saw that it was going downhill with the board of directors(even FF said that he didn't quite like it when DH left), so he thought he wanted to check in and see what was going down, maybe give his OPINION on some matters. The server was the best server in the world with him, was it going to be destroyed with him giving an opinion, and just see how everything was working with you all? If George Washington somehow came to this time right now, do you think that Pres. Bush would give him maybe a tour of the White House our I don't know the Pentagon or whatever? I'm sure he would. George Washington was the founder of the greatest country in the world, Lt. Hunter was the founder of the greatest MOHAA server in the world. Don't you think he has the right, to see how everything is being run and how everything is going with the new leadership? And then as Hunter and his family were attacked(verbally), and course words(in the words of Josh lol) were exchanged, and Hunter used the power that he had to try to set things straight. All he wanted was to see how things were going and where GCK was headed, and then things got out of hand so Hunter tryed to HELP out a little bit, but he was greatly opposed so then he exercised his power. He CREATED that server and just wanted to see how things were working out with it when he left. Well I don't want to start an argument, I just want to try to defend Hunter from some of this talk and the other little wise cracks on here. So best of luck to you guys with your new server, and hopefully, when we get everything worked out with our issue, we can maybe have some sort of partnership, or just battle each other. I was talking to NDV on MSN, and he made a good point, imagine two teams fighting against eachother with the same morals, and rules. It would be a clean and fair battle. Something that doesn't happen very often. Again I'm not trying to start a fight or argument, just trying to defend Hunter and the rest of our clan. If you have anything to say to me about this, either post it or email me at admin@freddyswebgraphics.com (preferably the email method) Cya and good luck to you,
[GCK] Freddy
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Post by =JHF= NDV™ on Apr 17, 2004 8:50:51 GMT -5
Greetings =JHF= TEAM ~ What Freddy spoke of is true...he did indeed speak with me on MSN. Here is the conversation in full: I think we can have a good Battle amongst each Team....after all is settled and we have =JHF= completely underway!! If I was wrong or overstepped my bounds with giving the link to the Boards to Freddy, please let me know. If you agree or disagree with what was stated by me in this conversation, again, please voice your concerns and opinions. Lets concentrate on the future of =JHF= now and let the past become history. =JHF= NDV (Ne Desit Virtus - Let Valor Not Fail)
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Post by CertainDeath on Apr 17, 2004 9:41:40 GMT -5
Hi Freddy, I consider you a friend too . Please forgive the US History teacher in me for a moment. When George Washington's second term was done the masses wanted him to continue. To in effect, be a king. He, however, saw the wisdom of passing power peacefully and the danger to our new country of holding on too long. NO MORE KINGS- ABSOLUTE POWER CORRUPTS ABSOLUTELY!!! Therefore, it is customary to GET OUT when power has been handed over. Yes there is a transition period and sometimes old administrations do not like new administrations and do little things like steal the "W" off of white house keyboards to make a point. But, for the good of the country they LEAVE and STAY OUT of the country's affairs and the public spotlight (except for Clinton) when the legitamate transfer of power has occured. They tradditionally do this because it is best for the country. Not all countrys are able to do this, however, and the typical result is a transfer of power that is not good for the country- usually resulting in bloodshed. Hunter's actions were typical of a despot who just couldn't let go of power. You CAN NOT be OUT and IN at the same time. It WILL NEVER work. Once power was transfered he should have abdicated completely, whether he liked it or not. The ONLY possible outcome of his actions is what has happened- revolution & independence. Yes GW would be given a tour of the White House. However, I highly doubt he would be welcome in the situation room where things really get done. IT JUST DOESN'T work that way. I shall step down from my soap box now. hope to see you around Alex. your friend, Kory (CD)
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Post by =JHF= NDV™ on Apr 17, 2004 9:49:29 GMT -5
=JHF= Certain Death ~ I knew there was a reason I enjoyed History Soo much!! VERY GOOD points made Sir! ;D I agree COMPLETELY!! ;D ;D =JHF= NDV (Ne Desit Virtus - Let Valor Not Fail)
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Post by GCK Freddy on Apr 17, 2004 10:03:05 GMT -5
Ahhh those darn teachers get you all the time! lol. Okay well I will buy that. Maybe my GW analogy wasn't such a good choice. lol. Well, I still think that Hunter had the right to see what was going on. But I think your history lesson is right. And to avoid starting a huge war here, I'd like to end this post and just say, that I really truly hope that these to clans can become a big group, still being GCK and JHF of course, and interact with each other, still be friends and have a good time together. If that is not to much, I know some of you are pretty mad at Hunter and my dad, but I think the benefits would be great of we could all function together, and not be like the Sneeches or the Butter Battle dudes. So cya later and best of luck to you all.
[GCK] Freddy
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Post by GCK Freddy on Apr 17, 2004 10:04:05 GMT -5
Oh and yes I'd still like to be friends with you too Kory.
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Post by =JHF= Ralph Grenade® on Apr 17, 2004 10:08:51 GMT -5
No need to worry about a huge war here Freddy, all our laundry is hanging on the line out back for all to see. No need to cover anything up here, unlike the government at GCK. Interesting no?
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Post by =JHF= Farefax© on Apr 17, 2004 10:14:59 GMT -5
Hey Freddy everyone has done what they believed to right, there is no telling in the end of what will be, all we can do is move forward. I do see a day when GCK and JFH will be locked in a battle in some far off place such as stalingrad for I think that iss the one thing GCK never had and that was an other team/ clan to battle with that had the same princples. It will truly be a great battle. Our doors are open to anyone who will follow the the princples for which GCK and JHF are based on. We will all meet again soon.
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Post by CertainDeath on Apr 17, 2004 11:03:54 GMT -5
Thanks for your kind response Freddy I personally am done venting and am ready to move on into the future! VIVA =JHF=! ;D CD
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Post by =JHF= HaveSocks on Apr 17, 2004 11:56:00 GMT -5
Freddy, I think all of us with thought long and hard before leaving GCK. I myself thought about it for several days prior to everything that occured. The events that transpired were the provervial straw that broke the camels back. It became apparent that something was wrong behind the scenes when several members of GCK suddenly were not checking in on a daily basis like they had been and the thread with the bylaws was erased. Hunter may have felt justified in his actions, but in DH's retirement announcment he also said we wanted to step back and NOT have an active roll in where things were going. One cannot have it two ways. In the end I decided to go where those I consider friends are, and will never regret this decision.
Hopefully someday GCK and JHF can have a battle in which two clans/teams who share the same ideals can gather.
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